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HOGKLA
04-02-2013, 07:59 PM
ASA would create a Sr. Bowhunter class. Every year I think they will finally step up and do it. Just dreaming.

carlosii
04-10-2013, 12:43 AM
you're probably right that there are a number of folks who would like to see a senior hunter class. the problem would be, where do you put them? i guess they could shoot on the same range and at the same time as the hunter class. you might get some flak from folks in the hunter class who wouldn't want to see the class diluted and payouts reduced.

i appreciate the fact that asa has set up open classes for more mature shooters and i wish you luck in your efforts to get a similar class for the hunter group.

tagmaster10
04-10-2013, 02:51 AM
I think I would rather see a Pro Hunter or Semi Pro Hunter class develop. That would give the shooters in Hunter class a place to move to once they have won out and still want to shoot pins(hunting) style set ups.

carlosii
04-10-2013, 10:17 AM
Well, the problem with moving them up to Pro Hunter or semi pro might be the increase in the entry fee. just saying. i'm no expert.

HOGKLA
04-10-2013, 01:22 PM
Heck, we are old. LOL Put us on the same range with the Bow Novice guys. Let us have fun. I just find it strange that there are SR classes in the open area for Super Sr., Sr Open, Sr. Pro, and Sr. Masters. Yet, not a one for the old guy shooting his hunting setup.

bhtr3d
04-10-2013, 03:18 PM
Sure while we are at it.......I want a class for left handed people...that wear glasses... Where do we draw the line with making more an more classes..........Is it the need to have classes for ....or is it a need that people feel they want to win something so subsecting everything will help in the cause.....(just a wondering)

carlosii
04-10-2013, 03:58 PM
well, lets see there are how many open classes??? and how many pin classes??? talk about subsecting (is that a word???)

anyway, glad i don't have to decide.

btw, if i wanted to win something, i mean really wanted to win something, i'd enter the Ugly Old Man Contest...

bhtr3d
04-10-2013, 05:06 PM
well, lets see there are how many open classes??? and how many pin classes??? talk about subsecting (is that a word???)

anyway, glad i don't have to decide.

btw, if i wanted to win something, i mean really wanted to win something, i'd enter the Ugly Old Man Contest...

WOW....the english police....so I put the wrong infinitive.....WOW.......shoot me.....LOL


I suppose I am going to have to watch my grammar and sentence syntax now? Just let me know when you wish to have that, true cubano churchill cigar . teacher.

allxs
04-10-2013, 05:20 PM
I think I would rather see a Pro Hunter or Semi Pro Hunter class develop. That would give the shooters in Hunter class a place to move to once they have won out and still want to shoot pins(hunting) style set ups.


Dont they already have this class without the entry fees, 'Unlimited' shoots the Semi Pro Course, uses pins and shoots hunting style set ups.

btw: the northern league (ibo) does offer a sr.Hunter Class, and they shoot the same course as the Hunter Class.

Older
04-10-2013, 07:29 PM
Dont they already have this class without the entry fees, 'Unlimited' shoots the Semi Pro Course, uses pins and shoots hunting style set ups.

btw: the northern league (ibo) does offer a sr.Hunter Class, and they shoot the same course as the Hunter Class.

Does any one know how many shooters r n the pin class that is over 60 years old ?

tagmaster10
04-11-2013, 12:33 AM
Dont they already have this class without the entry fees, 'Unlimited' shoots the Semi Pro Course, uses pins and shoots hunting style set ups.

btw: the northern league (ibo) does offer a sr.Hunter Class, and they shoot the same course as the Hunter Class.

The entry fees for archery are so low that paying a pro entry is not too bad and would bring the payouts up. I am just saying that there might be something to a semi pro or pro hunter and it could take off. As for older shooters wanting a Sr. Hunter, some federations have that class already. You might want to look at the numbers at their qualifiers.

allxs
04-11-2013, 12:17 PM
Does any one know how many shooters r n the pin class that is over 60 years old ?


if you are asking how many unlimiteds are over 60, it cant be that many the class only averages about 15 shooters.

Now, up north, the shc class in PA last year had 86 shooters.

HOGKLA
04-11-2013, 12:36 PM
Sure while we are at it.......I want a class for left handed people...that wear glasses... Where do we draw the line with making more an more classes..........Is it the need to have classes for ....or is it a need that people feel they want to win something so subsecting everything will help in the cause.....(just a wondering)

Now there is a positive organization growing attitude! Just curious, did you have the same attitude when they split Women's Open to A and B? I could care less if I ever won a dime at an ASA shoot or any other 3D tourney. If you are not pro, and you think you are going to make money at a 3D shoot, you need to talk to your financial advisor and invest your money somewhere else.

Currently there are 31 classes in ASA. If a Sr. Bowhunter class were to be created, it would avg in the top half within 2 years. Maybe even the top 10. But, don't let me bother you with a very probable success story.

Let's do some math. Adding all the other male amateur Sr. classes together for last year (Avg per shoot of course) they averaged 153 per shoot. And I am sure there are 20X times more 50+ year old men out there shooting bowhunting setups. By all means, let's continue to ignore them. And before you dismiss me based on my post count, I have been an ASA life member since the mid 90's.

HOGKLA
04-11-2013, 08:37 PM
We created a Sr. BH class several years ago in my home state and it quickly became one of the 5 largest classes.

3-D Quest
04-11-2013, 10:35 PM
HOGKLA, Don't get your feathers ruffled by Timbow, he may not be SOY, but he's trying to claim the "Poster of the Year" title! Not sure why anyone would dismiss you on your post count though? Since everyone on the forum started fresh a couple of weeks ago.
However, I tend to agree with him.

SonnyThomas
04-12-2013, 12:09 PM
well, lets see there are how many open classes???

Older than once was here; Open C - 40 yards. There ain't a club around that has 40 yards max. 45 and 50 all the time. Us younger geezers (?) did this past weekend. So this "pup" of some late 30s took first by 1 point, 2nd was 65 years old, 3rd was 64 years old and I believe 4th was 62 years old. Yes, small turn out, but we were there. 58 total I think. Regardless, 45 yards didn't bothers us one bit.

HOGKLA
04-15-2013, 06:50 PM
HOGKLA, Don't get your feathers ruffled by Timbow, he may not be SOY, but he's trying to claim the "Poster of the Year" title! Not sure why anyone would dismiss you on your post count though? Since everyone on the forum started fresh a couple of weeks ago.
However, I tend to agree with him.

Sorry, wasn't aware that the post count had just be reset. I just don't understand why ASA created 3 Sr. Open classes and doesn't create a Sr. Bowhunter class. We have a single Sr. Open class and a Sr. Bowhunter class here in Bama. And the Sr. Bowhunter class is always a third or more larger than the Sr. Open class. Just sayin!

bhtr3d
04-15-2013, 08:29 PM
To answer your question in a truthful response...I seriously do not believe there has been a strong request...in all seriousness.

HOGKLA
04-16-2013, 02:24 PM
There were 12 classes last year that averaged under 20 shooters per class.
Five where youth type classes.
Three were ladies classes.
The other four were, Limited, Crossbow, Traditional, and Sr. Masters.

Does anyone really think they had a strong voice? They were created so family members could have something to do or they were throw back classes to the old days.

I simply think ASA is missing out on a large group of shooters. The over 50 age group of men is LARGE and they seldom travel alone. They have the finanicial means to travel, they love archery, and they already have the equipment to shoot in a bowhunter type class. But, they are tired of competeing against young men with good eyesight and steady hands.

Even though there are many more archers shooting pins in the world, ASA basically has 4 classes for adult pin shooters, Bow Novice, Hunter, Unlimited, and Women's Bowhunter.

And us old guys would probably bring family and friends that would increase numbers in the other classes. I don't see a down side at all.

sagecreek
04-17-2013, 03:20 PM
There were 12 classes last year that averaged under 20 shooters per class.
Five where youth type classes.
Three were ladies classes.
The other four were, Limited, Crossbow, Traditional, and Sr. Masters.

Does anyone really think they had a strong voice? They were created so family members could have something to do or they were throw back classes to the old days.

I simply think ASA is missing out on a large group of shooters. The over 50 age group of men is LARGE and they seldom travel alone. They have the finanicial means to travel, they love archery, and they already have the equipment to shoot in a bowhunter type class. But, they are tired of competeing against young men with good eyesight and steady hands.

Even though there are many more archers shooting pins in the world, ASA basically has 4 classes for adult pin shooters, Bow Novice, Hunter, Unlimited, and Women's Bowhunter.

And us old guys would probably bring family and friends that would increase numbers in the other classes. I don't see a down side at all.

Hey man, I'll be 49 this summer, and I agree with you.